what? isnt this pretty similar to the no shows? we post in there about this, too. and i dont understand what the goal thing has to do with this. 

I'm confused too. 

Me too! Lol 

i listed a goal lol 

ok so I don't know why the goal thing is there. I've never opened a topic so maybe I just screwed that part up. But as for the topic name. I didn't think the no shows thread was appropriate for buyers who've had a bad seller experience. "No shows" sounds like a sellers thread to me for people who don't show up as agreed. I did do a search before I opened this thead to see if there was one already opened and it said there was only a good sellers thread. I haven't posted my bad seller experience yet because I got busy with my kids after I started the topic. But I did start the topic for a reason.......Just like buyers should be held accountable for their actions, Sellers should also! I had a horrible experience with a seller yesterday....I'll post it in a little while on here. 

Why not post now, since you are already on the thread. 

I feel like we use most of this in rant. It's cool to promote a seller in a good way, and it's alright to just list "no-shows" to find a common thread, but bad buying experiences is so, subjective. We've seen some people have bad buying experiences from the same people others have had a great one from. I think that's why we just "rant" about it. We don't want to appear to be here on underground to stop others from buying from people. 

I usually try not to name names but if someone mentions someone in the no-shows who has done the same to me then i dont feel so bad sayin hey yeah they did the same thing to me. 

Ok so this was the deal this weekend with me. I was supposed to pick up a dog kennel from a lady on North Fort. We agreed that if her husband got off work in time for me to pick it up on Friday, that I would pick it up on Friday, otherwise, I'd pick it up on Saturday. She was supposed to call if he got off work in time. I didn't hear from her on Friday and when I went to get her number off Chatarama, it had deleted it because we had chatted a while after she had given me her number/address. I emailed her Sat morning at 10:30 and said that I needed her address/number again that I wanted to come when me kids took their naps and wanted to make sure she was still going to be home. She responded back that afternoon that her husband "had already gotten rid of it because he was tired of looking at it". WOW! We had AGREED to Friday or Sat and since she didn't call me Friday, I was under the impression that her husband just got off late since she had said he may get off late in that situation, I'd pick it up on Sat. I sent her an email back saying sorry but I was surprised her husband had already gotten rid of it "because he was tired of looking like it" when we were within the agreed upon pickup time window.....After she responded back to that email apologizing for the "situation", she tells me that her husband had told multiple people that they could have it, that they are moving this weekend...ect. She never told me before this that she was moving or that other people had been told they could have it too. I was pretty upset. I had rearranged my whole day to come and pick up the kennel. I have 2 kids both under the age of 2, it was not easy to rearrange my whole schedule to come and pick the kennel nor was it easy for my babysitter to rearrange her whole schedule to come over to watch my kids last minute. But I really wanted the kennel and I told her I'd be there so I was coming at the agreed upon time. The point is, sellers should not be telling multiple people that they are getting the same item. It is rude and inconsiderate. I know several other people have had similar experiences, but this is the first time somebody has done this to me. But I think sellers should be held just as accountable for their non-performance as buyers. Nobody has a problem coming on here and bashing a buyer that does not show as agreed. Buyers should have the same recourse. Hence this thread was created...... 

Nobody has a problem coming on here and bashing a buyer that does not show as agreed We don't bash, we compare how many times it happens just so we are wary of when we agree to meet with them. It's a precaution. We should not try and make sellers out to be people we shouldn't shop from. Hell, it's a given every seller has done something frowned upon at one point or another, by choice or by accident. We rant about it because it's frustrating. That's why it's in the rant thread, or else where. But actually creating a list of "bad sellers".. I feel like that crosses a line where we become people who are telling other people "Don't shop there". My husband hates Taco Bell, and he has is reasons, but I'm not about to go trying to get others to stop going there. 

Sorry, that's just IMO. 

Sorry if you disagree Stella. But when a buyer does not show as agreed, they are posted as a No Show. I don't have a problem with posting when a buyer is a no show. After all, you wasted your time for somebody who didn't respect your time enough to call or email that they couldn't make it as agreed. Sellers should respect the buyer's time and give them the same courtesy. It is a courtesy thing.....don't be rude and inconsiderate of the other person's time regardless if you are the buyer or the seller. But we do agree on one part, there should be a way to track the buyer/sellers performance record. We have a no show thread, a good sellers thread, and now we have a Bad Sellers thread.....I don't understand why you would have a problem with the thread. The only people I could see that "should" have problem with it is if they themselves are a bad seller and they don't want people to know about it...... After all isn't part of what underground is about....to share your experiences and opinions....Experiences and opinions are both good and bad.... It isn't telling others to "don't shop there", it is telling others your experience. Just like the no show thread tells others when a buyer is a repeated no show, this thread will give the option for buyers to post when a seller is a non-performing seller....and IF a pattern of non-performance is created, then buyers know this in advance of buying from that particular seller..... 

a good sellers thread I started that thread... because I'm tired of showing up to people's doors to pick stuff up and the first thing out of their mouths is "I'm getting tired of selling on bookoo because I can't handle all that underground drama, those women are so rude". I'm all for a seller "no show" thread, which is already in existence in the no show thread which is for both buying and selling. I'm just going on permanent record here that this is NOT why I am here on underground. I am here to make friends and share common interests with women. Seriously though... we do hurt a lot of women with the things posted here in underground. We are not those people, and until we walk a mile in their shoes and truly understand why they do the things they do, I don't think we have any right to judge. It's one thing to put in a rant "Gosh, I'm so mad it didn't go the way I wanted", but it's a very different thing to put here "Gosh, this seller was just soooo bad". When I read things in the vent, I assume it's in the heat of a moment often. Like when I'm mad at my husband and yell about him in husband rant, but if I was calm and out of the moment, I could be objective and tell you he isn't really that bad. Hell, if I knew my husband was here reading my husband rants, I wouldn't even post that here. I KNOW sellers come here to read. I do NOT support the idea of this thread, as I see it will only serve TWO purposes. 1) To help others stop shopping from them, and/or 2) To hurt the feelings of or anger the seller Ranting about a seller is different than Categorizing a "bad" seller. I'd be pissed if my name showed up here for something where the buyer didn't contact me to fix it, or something I didn't know about, or any thing that could have been explained. I wouldn't even have the chance to defend myself if I didn't use underground, and many women don't. 

Simply, this isn't ebay. If bookoo wanted you to "rate" sellers... they would. (and perhaps you could write into bookoo and suggest they add a star rating feature) Underground wasn't created for this. It was a forum for women to come and talk and form friendships. "Seller's Hall of Shame".... this is just.... cruel. 

I think i am gonna side with stella on this one. 1 person might have a bad experience with a seller, and someone eelse might not. doing this may damage their rep as a seller. then they wont be able to sell anything and make any money, or even clean up the clutter. i'd rant about it, and probably name the person if asked, but not go about it this way. and then, if an issue was resolved, or a sincere apology was given, i'd be sure to state that too. i've posted under no shows about someone, and something ended up being misunderstood, so i was sure to clarify as not to make others not want to deal with that person 

What is the diffrence of a Bad Buyers thread, and a Bad Sellers Thread? I dont see one... I am for both. Now I have great experinces with a buyer that others have had bad with.. im sure it will be the same with sellers. But its just a place to put our thoughts... 

A place for thoughts might be cool with me... but a "hall of shame"... implies something other than thoughts. IMO We don't have a Bad Seller or Bad Buyer thread (except here). We have a good buying experience thread (which includes buyers and sellers), and we have a "no-show" list. 

Some ppl might use this for other than its intended purpose. Some ppl won't buy from other just because they don't like them. Not because they were treated bad or got a bad item. You post that seller here and ppl will assume they aren't a fair and decent seller and they in turn won't buy from them. 

so it's pretty much like the rant post?? LOL thats juss my opinion on this thread.ppl need to think for themselves n not go by what other ppl say, everybody deserves a second chance ,I respect everybody's opinion but if a so called "bad seller" has something for sale that I want I'm gonna buy it :D 

Ok so the name has been changed so nobody is offended. Look the reality is people are already posting what this thread is all about anyway in other places on underground....And if anyone has a problem with anyone reading what they are saying then they shouldn't be writing it for the entire underground to read in the first place. I don't say anything about anyone that I've had a problem with before I say it to them (unless I'm asking someone for advice on how to handle the situation obviously). The person I referred to I had contacted which is how I found out they had told multiple people they could all have the same item. They told me they did that! Now I personanally think others on here should be aware that this seller is doing this with her items. I'm not telling anyone that she is a good seller or a bad seller. I'm simply sharing MY experience with her that I happened to feel was a bad experience. Now I don't want anyone to take my word off my ONE experience with her to never buy from her. I would like to see this thread as a place for people to go who need advice on how to deal with a bad experience with a seller or to share what they feel was a bad experience with a seller. NOW if the same person's name continuously pops up from multiple buyers as somebody they had a bad buying experience from, I think it establishes a pattern...every buyer will make their own decision ultimately anyway. But this thread is really no different than the no shows thread for sellers to post on. Sellers post they had a bad experience and more than once they buyer has come back and gave their side of the story. This is no different, if the seller feels the buyer post incorrectly, they can post their side of the story and most will be able to read between the lines and figure out who's telling the truth. All in All, I think this just defines what this thread is about. The rant thread is too diverse in my opinion. I don't care to read about other people's drama. I have two kids and a husband. I don't need to read about and think about somebody else's drama. SO I don't read the rant post, I feel if this thread offends or bothers somebody they should do the same and just not read it, but that is my opinion. 

My husband hates Taco Bell, and he has is reasons, but I'm not about to go trying to get others to stop going there. I do! i tell everyone i know to not go to the one off main gate. or at least to be careful and only use cash! but they stole my $ so thats why i warn people 

Lol! Actually, he has a problem with the chain, but there is a huge problem with the one off the main gate, and even the one in Leesville messes up orders on a fairly regular basis. 

the one off main gate had an employee write down my debit card # and took out over $4000! when i went to the owner about it, he KNEW! he said that it had happened before and they had fired that person, only to have JUST HIRED THEM BACK! I was livid! 

How is that guy not in jail for that? 

who knows! because its leesville! i had to file a report on it and the police officer wasnt surprise at all. 

WOW! Come on! REALLY?????? Can't we all just be ADULTS on this site? Or is that too much to ask! 

WOW! Come on! REALLY?????? Can't we all just be ADULTS on this site? Or is that too much to ask! WTH are you talking about? the only thing said after your long post was about Jen's cc# being stolen at taco bell 

Jill: I like this thread and will use it! I have had some bad experinces buying also! 

WTH are you talking about? the only thing said after your long post was about Jen's cc# being stolen at taco bell I second that statement! What the heck are you freaking out about?